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     olivero updated 3 years ago 1 Member · 27 Posts
  • guest

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 12:00 am

    Guys,I have a frymaster high efficiencyFrymaster fryer model FPGL230CA that is losing a couple of inches oil overnight,and an intermittent filtering issue,a long fill time returning oil to vat.Im back out there tomorrow to replace o-rings on filter vat fill tube,but  didn’t have any issues when I filtered either vat.Seems unlikely the o rings are the only issue,but I’m unfamiliar with this fryer.any suggestions?

  • olivero - Florida

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 4:46 pm

    I am going to go ahead and assume there is a valve behind the doors that you can close to keep the oil int he tank…. Do those close all the way?

  • ectofix - Nashville

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    rock, did you call Frymaster?  I suggest you do that while you’re standing in front of the fryer.

     

    I’ve never looked at an OCF fryer and worked on just one LOV.  Does that OCF use a linear actuator to operate the drain and return valves?  If so, then there might be an adjustment of the actuator’s linkage or something has worked loose – thus causing the drain valve to remain cracked open a little.

     

    As for the slow fill time, is that while returning filtered oil or while bringing oil in from the JIB?

  • badbozo2315

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    >Does that OCF use a linear actuator to operate the drain and return valves? 

     

    Just FYI, they have thankfully stopped using the linear actuators,  been a while, now they use blue and black body rotory ones.

  • fixbear - ADK NY

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    Not ever having the pleasure or pain of seeing one of these,  I’m not sure I’m the one to answer you question.  But I did review the service manual and have some questions.  Does it have auto top off?  Does it have auto baskets?  Where does the oil go, Filter sump, cabinet, or floor.  Are they using the filter correctly?  Is the filter paper above the screen?  Does the pump ever trip on overload?

     

       Being this is a computerized automated machine that the filter system operates with solenoid valves,  I suspect that the drain solenoid is not seating correctly and you have loss to the filter tank.  .Problem now is the oil cool’s and becomes um-pumpable due to viscosity.  Remove and clean or replace the drain solenoid. would be my first guess.

  • fixbear - ADK NY

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    Man you guy’s are quirk. As I’m composing everybody post a answer.  Now I know I’m to old.

  • ectofix - Nashville

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    It happens.  It can be maddening, but it happens to me all the time.  And at 57, I’m not old.  You and Badbozo are old.

  • ectofix - Nashville

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 5:58 pm

    fixbear wrote:

     

     Where does the oil go, Filter sump, cabinet, or floor.

     

    You’re mean too!

  • badbozo2315

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    >And at 57, I’m not old.  You and Badbozo are old.

     

    Kidz these days… I tell ya.  61 Long years. Hope the knees hold out to 62. 

  • rock

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    Oil goes to the filter sump

  • rock

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    The slow fill times are intermittent,and occurs when they’re filtering or polishing.

  • rock

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    They were closed when I checked,but the manager said the oil level  is low in the morning,now that I think about it,maybe the night crew is filtering/polishing and not closing valve completely….

  • fixbear - ADK NY

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    Don’t they have actuators to open and close automatically?  And are all three tanks doing it.

  • fixbear - ADK NY

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Damned old farts.  I’m a youngster of 70.

  • olivero - Florida

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    I am staying out of this.

  • fixbear - ADK NY

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    I remember a Pitco that drove me nuts.  Very slow at pumping the oil back up to the fryer.  Pump was cavitating.  Changed the o rings several time.  Repaired the block and realigned.  Finally tryied running a wire in the bottom of the tank.  Oil was all coked into carbon from the pipe heater. A real problem to remove.  

  • rock

    Member
    May 12, 2017 at 5:12 am

    No actuators,it’s not automatic and it’s a two vat fryer with a jib

  • ectofix - Nashville

    Member
    May 12, 2017 at 8:15 am

    rock, you’re probably on the road while I’m posting this, but I’m sharing nonetheless.  Here’s Frymaster’s latest and greatest service/parts manual on the OCF30 series gas fryers – just published last month:

     

    Oil Conserving Fryer (OCF30)™ GAS FRYERS Service & Parts Manual

  • fixbear - ADK NY

    Member
    May 12, 2017 at 9:26 am

    Rock,  If the drain valves aren’t leaking When you are present, check the closed valve micro switch adjustment. Theat will force them to close it all the way.  Second possibility, is the level going below the filter return pipe.  Possibly a flow back through the pump system.  That amount of loss is only a drip at a time overnight.

  • rock

    Member
    May 12, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Thanks for the manual 

  • rock

    Member
    May 20, 2017 at 9:43 am

    Just an update.problem solved.after many questions by me to the store manager,turns out that when he opened in the morning,the oil level was a couple inches low(because it had cooled overnight) so he added oil every morning.call it customer education 

  • fixbear - ADK NY

    Member
    May 20, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    Wow, what kind of oil has that much expansion.  Or they accumulate a lot of water in the bottom that evaporates.

  • olivero - Florida

    Member
    May 21, 2017 at 8:44 am

    That sounds a bit effy to me. If he had added oil to the fryer then why would it be low again? Thermal contraction and expansion does not evaporate the thing expanding or contracting so if he is losing oil and having to add, why would that be due to that?

     

    If the oil is evaporating off the deep fryer, that’s a different story, but I don’t think that’s possible as I Can imagine the oil will need a ton of heat to evaporate.

  • rock

    Member
    May 22, 2017 at 7:13 am

    This is the way I understand it.overnight,the oil settles to the lower oil level line,so he added oil to reach the upper oil level line before turning fryers on.if the fryer was just left to reach temp,the oil would have been at the correct upper oil level line in vat.does that sound right you?

  • olivero - Florida

    Member
    May 22, 2017 at 8:46 am

    Sure.

     

    It only happened once then? 

  • rock

    Member
    May 23, 2017 at 5:07 am

    only happened when that manager opened in a.m

  • olivero - Florida

    Member
    May 23, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    Alright, so one specific manager happened to open it up this one time and thought something was wrong?

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