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  • Indigo ice machine manual purge?

    Posted by guest on January 2, 2017 at 12:00 am

    Manitowoc Model ID1106A-261

     

    Local water supply has done their annual overdose of chemicals and throttling ice machines all over town. Yellow crystals form within days plugging up everything. Don’t need a chemical to turn it soluble again, just enough warm water and it turns milky is seconds.

     

    Trying to add warm water and do a manual purge of water from trough. On all my older machines it is simple enough just run a warm water hose from mop sink nearby and toggle the purge switch. Rinse and repeat a couple of times and come back tomorrow.

     

    We have two new Manitowocs that turned in to “the canary in the mineshaft.”. First unit the intake screen completely covered covered in crystals and overheated the pump motor. The second unit we cleaned in time.

     

    Two days later building up again.

     

    Is there a way to just run the pump without having to go thru the 30 minute digitally controlled cleaning cycle? 

    olivero replied 7 years, 3 months ago 1 Member · 14 Replies
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  • fixbear

    Member
    January 4, 2017 at 7:12 am

    Your buildup is a combination of chlorimides, iron and particulates. It may also have fluorides.

       You have to re-sanitize the machine anyway, so why not just go though the clean cycle with Manitowoc cleaner and sanitizer as in your owners manual.

  • olivero

    Member
    January 5, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    May have fluorides?

     

    Good luck finding water without fluorides these days, shits everywhere.

  • fixbear

    Member
    January 5, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    Not here. It’s not very popular in the northeast. Lancaster PA has it and it’s impossible to find a good cup of coffee there.

  • olivero

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 9:17 am

    Really? I would have thought everyone got a piece of the pie.

     

    Stuff is awfull. All I know is that it comes from aluminum waste originally, instead of putting it in the air, they put it in the water so the EPA got off their arse.

     

    As a welder, I know that nothing good ever came from aluminum fumes

     

    You guys are lucky, in Denmark I don’t think we have it either and you can drink tap water. I remember coming to the US and I was shocked about the taste and quality of tap water. It was disgusting.

  • fixbear

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 1:16 pm

    Tap water varies from municipality  Here in NY we have water competitions for quality and bragging rights. In the north country drinking tap water is better than bottled. I grew up on a farm with a hand pump. None better.

     

    As a welder, how about Galvanized.

  • olivero

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Wow, there you go. I didn’t know that.

     

    oh.. god…. galvanized is one of the worst, but the thing is, when you weld galvanized, you can see its not good. Aluminum is invisible, can’t see the fumes very often but after welding aluminum for a couple of hours without a respirator you can feel it.

     

    Galvanizes has this smell, or more like the zinc has a smell, very certain I can tell when its present in any metal I weld. Its awful, I always keep my respirator on or my head far away when I do metal with Zinc so never got sick from it but ive definetley caught the fumes and they are nasty.

     

    Stainless and Aluminum are bad too, just not visible fumes.

  • fixbear

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    Done a lot of stainless, stellite, Manganese, Phosphor bronze and copper. The copper bellows where .007 inch and we had to modify a P&H TIG do be able to do it. Ruined a bunch. Did you ever aluminum spray weld? Did a bunch of that too. Maybe now you can guess why I’m COPD. Plus internal tank welding with FCAW.

  • olivero

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    Lol, COPD? What is that?

     

    I have done very little MIG, but a lot of TIG and Stick. 

     

    Bellows sounds interesting. how was that?

  • fixbear

    Member
    January 6, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    If you ever have welded copper, think about paper thin and how the heat transmits

     

    Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease.. In the sixties no one worried about smoke or heavy metals. Or carbon Tet, asbestos, mercury, lead. Hell, I used to melt 150 lbs of lead to bed the jaw on a Cone crusher. Change the manganese by air arcing it into quarters and chiseling out the lead to do it again. In the eighties they can out with epoxy. Was a lot harder to clean off and stunk and smoked from the heat.

  • davejohnsonnola

    Member
    January 9, 2017 at 11:02 am

    Thanks for the replies gentlemen (as well as the welding sidebar.)

     

    So there is no way to do a manual purge from the digital screen and input buttons?

     

    The other reason I was looking for this feature is if there is a malfunction with the evaporator forming an ice block and not harvesting, in order to manually defrost it quickly by pouring warm water into the trough, running it on wash cycle and purging the water as it gets cold again…. then adding more warm water to speed up the defrost process.

     

    As for the crystals that are formed, if we catch it early, by adding warm water to the trought it dissolves again into a milky liquid and can be flushed rather quickly. On my old Ice-O-Matics have been able to keep up with it by doing this daily and using the manual purge switch to clear the trough of the milky liquid.

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